Guardian wrote:As far as the belittling or patronising aspect goes, I have always found the staff to be very helpful. Of course I suppose it depends on the staff... The Orange shirts were the central Memeorabilia crew who work for the organisiors. There were a couple of other signing areas that were run by other people, I guess for the guests that were brough in by external agencies. I had no problems with the Orange shirted staff or the guys who were looking after the Dr Who/Carry On people although I'm not sure who was looking after the Bond people, just a line of squashed in people!
Admin-2 wrote:On the autograph cost for your or their item, I think you will find it is about licencing issues and copyright for images.
Simply put, You are purchasing an autograph. By having 2 different costs you are putting a value on the item which would then suggest they are selling the item. This would require a legal licence agreement between the actor and the film/TV/Copyright holder which is just not possible.
So the item is never sold to you it is the Autograph.
I've been attending Memorabilia for over ten years now, and I have to say that the commercialisation of the show annoys me intensely.
When I started attending, the guests usually charged £5 for your own items, and £10 or £15 for signed photos. Whilst the cost of photos hasnt changed all that much (some have gone up to £25, but generally most still remain around the £10-£15 mark), the cost of getting your own items has soared.
When I started attending, it was also possible to often negotiate directly with the guests about prices - so if you had multiples you could often get a set price for getting them all signed. This is very rarely possible now. For example, I had a number of items for a specific person at this show, and I have to say I have never felt so patronised as I did when I asked to see if I could do a deal. I was basically laughed at - or sneered at - take your pick. I was told that a deal wouldnt be considered, "certainly not" for the number I had. Another guest was overheard to be complaining why people weren't coming to get her autograph in the quantities they had previously. Simple answer - last time the person in question was only charging £5 per autograph on your own item - this time it was £15.
I have to say I think these changes are all due to another show, which has pushed for standard prices per autograph. This has now become endemic across autograph shows, which is a shame.
I would strongly recommend that you consider bringing back different prices for getting your own items signed. I would also ask that you consider more flexibility in the prices, to allow deals to take place. People like me (and there are a large number I know who collect as I do) like to get many items signed. If we're being asked to pay £15 per item, we're less likely to get multiples done - if indeed we bother at all. It would be better for the guest to sign - for example - five items for £30-40 than signing just one (if that) for £15.
It would be really nice if Memorabilia could differentiate itself from other shows in this respect.
Admin-2 wrote:So there is no real answer other than having less guests attend events the whole thing is well over fished.
Mr Beaver wrote:Admin-2 wrote:So there is no real answer other than having less guests attend events the whole thing is well over fished.
I feel differently, and wonder if [and I truly mean this constructively] a policy of being more ‘fan friendly’ is just needed to be installed.
A point highlighted by the recent incredible ‘Alan Flyng’ fiasco. There appears to be some ‘signers’ who are beginning to take fans and their position for granted.
Maybe we could install a policy that all English based background actors be £10 [or less ].
I know generally they are, and I congratulate you for this – but some weren’t at the last show.
World Of Stuff wrote:Here's another angle - the guests charge more now because they can't spot the fans from the scalpers. They charge more so scalpers can't make a packet on their name on the secondary market. They (sports stars excluded) charge the same for a kid to get a grainy 10 x 8 personalised "To Jimmy" as they do for a forty year old man to get a vintage poster signed. I was actually told by a "Star Wars Legend" that he should charge me more to get my vintage items signed - is this the way forward????
Seems so given the high prices for sports stars to sign "premium items" like shirts or gloves. I remember getting my original Umbro Aston Villa 1980/81 shirt signed at Memorabilia by Dennis Mortimer, Gary Shaw and Colin Gibson. They were charging £4 each but said "call it a tenner" - this is the crux of the thread, the death of yet another era that was obviously very close to the hearts of all Memorabilia attendees, and the birth of yet another soulless corporate monster......
Also, well done Mr Beaver for getting a comment on here for more than ten minutes!!!
Admin-2 wrote:Are they background? do they have a line?, do they have 2 lines?, have they more than one scene?.
Admin wrote:It is not limited to Memorabilia when it comes to autograph pricing it is across the board so it is very unfair to pigeon hole this event, how does that make the event 'another soulless corporate monster' ?
On the Mr Beaver comment we allow him to post when his says something constructive whch more often than not is not, so patting him on the back really seems out of place.
World Of Stuff wrote:What makes these events now soulless? No posed photos, cattle market style barriers, £25 for about five seconds with a celebrity
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